If I had to summarize the Massad Ayoob Group MAG-40 class in one sentence, it would be this: “You spend 16 hours on the gun range learning techniques that would allow us to use lethal force to kill or disable threats, and 24 hours in the classroom learning why you want to avoid that outcome at all costs.” As I wrote in an earlier blog, Ayoob’s view is that there are no winners in gunfights; the only victory is deterrence.
(As an aside, I recently read another interesting review of a MAG-40 course in Washington state in 2011.)
In any event, at the end of the 5 day course, students take a 25 question, multiple choice exam on the material learned in the classroom. These exams are kept by the Massad Ayoob Group and can be used as evidence in court to show that the student had a basic understanding of the principles and laws that govern the justifiable use of lethal force.
Also on the final day, students shoot a 60 round qualification course on the range. The course is as follows:
- 4 YARDS: fire 6 rounds in 8 seconds – non-dominant hand only
- 4 YARDS: 6 rounds, 8 seconds – dominant hand only (qualifications from NRA Police Service Pistol Course)
- 7 YARDS: 12 rounds in 25 seconds. 6 rounds – reload – 6 rounds. Two hands, preferred standing position (Weaver, Chapman, or isosceles). (FBI Practical Police Course)
- 10 YARDS: 18 shots in 75 seconds. 6 in cover crouch – reload – 6 in high kneel – reload – 6 in low kneel. (New England Police Course)
- 15 YARDS: 18 shots in 90 seconds. 6 rounds classic Weaver – reload – 6 rounds Chapman – reload – 6 rounds isosceles. (Hybrid of other qualifications)
For 60 rounds, a score of 300 is perfect. Targets are standard IPSC brown cardboard. Shots in the middle “A” zone (6″ wide by 11″ tall) score 5 points, “B” and “C” zone are “1 down” or 4 points. “D” zone are 2 down or 3 points. Missed or unfired shots score zero.
One interesting aspect of the qualification is that the range officers/instructors all shot the course first as a pacesetter. Massad Ayoob shot a Smith & Wesson revolver (as did Phil Wong, to his right in the picture below), scoring a perfect 300 with a 4 inch group. That was the benchmark for us. Ayoob offered to sign a $1 bill for anyone who tied his score, and a $5 bill for anyone who beat it (in this case, with a smaller group).
We were advised simply to focus on every shot – not on the goal, but on the task at hand. I was nervous, and like alot of other shooters pulled my first shot (the one-hand, off-hand from 4 yards). But after the first string I relaxed a bit and realized I could do what I had been training to do. Here I am shooting in the high-kneel position from the 10 yard line.
As part of the course, we learned Ayoob’s “Stressfire” shooting technique. One of the ideas promoted is the “crush grip.” Basically, this entails holding the grip as tight as possible in both hands. (Previously I wrote about champion shooter Rob Leatham visiting our class, and his affirming this technique.) Although it took some time to get used to, I found the crush grip was very helpful in terms of accuracy and speed. In the photo below you can see one of the recently ejected 9mm casings in the air still and I am already back on target with the Glock 17.
In the end, I put 50 of 60 shots in the “A” zone, and 10 shots “one down” in the “C” zone for a total score of 290 out of 300. I was excited that this score put me in the top 5 of the class class of 21 students. As you can see from my target, I didn’t shoot anywhere near Ayoob’s 4 inch group, but got most of my hits center of mass from a variety of different distances, using a variety of different techniques (most of which I had never used until that week).
Ayoob did not have to sign any bills for students in our course (though he did autograph a few books, including one for me – The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry, 2nd edition). The high score in our course was Bruce, who used a Taurus (!) to shoot 297. He was followed by Mike (296), Robert and Phil (294), Dirk (291), and me (290). The average score of the class was just over 282. Interestingly, we divided into two relays, one with 10 people and one with 11. The average score of Relay I was 282.1 and the average score of Relay II was 282.7. A narrow margin of victory.
Last, but not least, shout out to my friend Sandy who was the high lady and in the top 3rd of the class with a 289!
[…] the gun ranges, I wonder what effect this is having on the training community? My friend and I took Massad Ayoob’s MAG-40 class in November 2012 and burned through over 1,000 rounds of 9mm between us. The cost of ammo certainly drives the cost […]
LikeLike
[…] Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course (545 views). Three of the top 5 most visited pages on my site have to do with Massad Ayoob and his […]
LikeLike
[…] Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course 2 comments November […]
LikeLike
This course of fire was submitted to and accepted by NH Police Standards and Training for off duty shooting course of fire for Police officers in Weare, NH.
LikeLike
I just completed this course earlier today, and the format for, us at least, was 4 10-four days. Very good description of what goes on in his class, I’ve been reading his work for almost 2 decades, and was determined to learn even more in this class–I got well more than I paid for.
LikeLike
[…] Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course – November 2012 […]
LikeLike
[…] Ayoob’s MAG-40 class, which included 16 hours on the range. (I shot 290 out of 300 on the qualification course of fire finishing in the top 5 in my 21 person […]
LikeLike
[…] the material taught in the course showed up in the MAG shooting test, which is shot at standard speed in MAG-40. In higher level courses, the par times are cut in […]
LikeLike
[…] 5. Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course […]
LikeLike
[…] student was working on improving scores on the Massad Ayoob Group qualification test. Mas has an interesting approach to his qual course. It can be shot at single speed, double […]
LikeLike
[…] Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course […]
LikeLike
[…] I constantly mention here, I took and passed with a pretty good score the Massad Ayoob Group MAG-40 class in 2011. In 2015 I attended the USCCA Concealed Carry Expo and […]
LikeLike
[…] in my work on gun culture, I paid my tuition and attended Massad Ayoob’s MAG-40 (Phoenix, 2012), an NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home course (San Jose, 2013), and the […]
LikeLike
[…] FBI rifle qual, the Florida LE qual, and probably some others that I simply don’t remember. A description of the single-speed MAG qual is here. In higher level classes, the time limits are cut in 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4th for a “quad […]
LikeLike
[…] par times. Instead, I borrowed a idea from Massad Ayoob, who scales the difficulty of his MAG-20 shooting test in higher level classes by dividing the par times by 2, 3 and 4 to increase the drill […]
LikeLike
[…] shooters. One was Phil Wong, who served as an assistant instructor on the range for the Massad Ayoob Group MAG-40 course I took in 2012. Another was Annette Evans, a competitive shooter, among other things gun […]
LikeLike
[…] Shooting the MAG-40 Qualification Course […]
LikeLike